My daughter committed suicide at 24 years old because of depression 00:00:01

If someone insists on suicide, how can we change their minds? 00:00:04

Well .. first of all, that is very sorry 00:00:07

It's so terrible 00:00:11

OK 00:00:16

I had this girlfriend 00:00:19

Granddaughter .. 00:00:22

Sorry 00:00:30

There was a lot of depression 00:00:35

In our family 00:00:38

So it is a question related to my reality 00:00:39

Generally 00:00:46

I had this girlfriend 00:00:48

A friend of his parents and granddaughter committed suicide 00:00:49

And she was blaming herself for that 00:00:54

What could I have done? What could I have done differently? 00:00:57

This is the problem with suicide. It leaves everyone wondering, oh my God what could I have done !? 00:00:59

I could have treated that person better than that 00:01:04

I could have heard them! I could have been with them! 00:01:06

And she blamed herself for this 00:01:08

She felt that she was not someone of use and that she had failed like a grandmother 00:01:12

She is a very good person 00:01:16

So I went for a walk with her and said 00:01:18

She is married and has a crush on her husband, he is a good person 00:01:20

And I said 00:01:24

You blame yourself 00:01:27

On your granddaughter's suicide! 00:01:30

Do you blame your husband? 00:01:32

Would you sit him down and tell him that he was too vain and useless? 00:01:34

Because his granddaughter committed suicide, and how he completely failed! 00:01:39

She said: No, I will never do that 00:01:42

I replied: Well .. 00:01:45

Don't do it yourself 00:01:49

No 00:01:52

People 00:01:54

Depression is a terrible thing 00:01:55

Many, many things cause it and we spend it ... 00:01:57

We understand some of them, but we don't understand many of them at all 00:02:01

You know, people sometimes get depressed because they're so ill 00:02:05

We know depression can be a trigger disease 00:02:08

It may be associated with a weak autoimmune 00:02:11

There are many reasons people may become depressed 00:02:14

Depressed people go to very dark places 00:02:17

You can't imagine it 00:02:20

It is not necessarily the case that you can always save someone! 00:02:22

But inundating yourself in the aftermath of a suicide is not helpful 00:02:27

So there is room for self-forgiveness 00:02:31

Maybe you did some blame things you were not supposed to do 00:02:35

But you don't want to blame yourself 00:02:39

Remember the presumption of innocence 00:02:42

Innocent until proven otherwise 00:02:44

You must apply it to yourself 00:02:47

I think sometimes people are so depressed that no one can do anything 00:02:50

This is the worst part of it, when a depressed person thinks 00:02:55

Depressed person thinks saying 00:03:01

I only see disasters everywhere 00:03:06

I don't see any way out of it 00:03:10

I see no way forward at all 00:03:13

And maybe the combination of these two beliefs is what makes people 00:03:15

Really suicidal 00:03:19

The case is hopeless! 00:03:21

Will not get better 00:03:23

where ever you go! There is no way out 00:03:25

The torment is unbearable 00:03:27

And I am absolutely useless for anyone 00:03:28

It is best for everyone if it just ceases to exist 00:03:32

If I am not a great burden it will destroy their lives now 00:03:36

I will become that burden in the future 00:03:40

Try to imagine 00:03:45

This is the case for those of you, it's terrible 00:03:46

There are many ways to get there 00:03:49

So 00:03:52

You can listen to people 00:03:54

You can please encourage them to ask for the help they need 00:03:56

I have seen antidepressants work wonders for many, many people 00:04:00

They don't work for everyone 00:04:04

They are not considered a solution to all problems 00:04:06

But they do have side effects 00:04:08

One of the side effects of untreated depression is: Suicide 00:04:11

And don't recover from it 00:04:14

And the likelihood of this is relatively high 00:04:16

You can go to war with them about antidepressants 00:04:21

So the person cannot get out of his depression and he is suicidal 00:04:24

What will he lose? 00:04:27

One month on antidepressants 00:04:29

They will know 00:04:31

They may have to try it for a longer period of time, as it will depend on their response 00:04:32

Some people respond better to one class of antidepressant than another 00:04:35

She deserves to fight someone for it 00:04:40

If they are in very bad shape and they will not do everything they can to improve 00:04:43

(ARK) ECT is helpful 00:04:46

It works with difficult depression 00:04:49

It's a terrible thing to consider 00:04:51

However, ARK's modern methods are not the same as in the movies 00:04:52

I repeat, there is no return from death! 00:04:56

So 00:05:01

You cannot save everyone 00:05:03

People get sick, they die 00:05:06

And sometimes the cause of death 00:05:09

Looks like he's depressed 00:05:11

Depression is a multifaceted phenomenon 00:05:14

You can be by their side, listen to them 00:05:16

To see them 00:05:19

You can get involved 00:05:20

You can try to understand, hold them accountable 00:05:23

You can do all these things 00:05:26

But everyone has a destiny 00:05:28

And you are not 00:05:31

Capable of everything 00:05:33

So there will be a disaster at some point 00:05:35

Like your daughter's disaster 00:05:38

And the wearer 00:05:42

Try to bring the slightest load of misery with you 00:05:45

For what you can 00:05:48

When you recover from your grief 00:05:52

Yes 00:05:56