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[Music] this is the Peter Pan story roughly 00:00:01

speaking as Peter Pan is this magical 00:00:04

boy pan means pan is the god of 00:00:06

everything roughly speaking right and so 00:00:09

it's not an accident that he has the 00:00:11

name pan and he's the boy that won't 00:00:13

grow up and he's magical 00:00:16

well that's because children are magical 00:00:17

they can be anything they're nothing but 00:00:19

potential and Peter Pan doesn't want to 00:00:21

give that up why well he's got some 00:00:25

adults around him but the main adult is 00:00:27

Captain Hook well who the hell wants to 00:00:30

grow up to be Captain Hook 00:00:32

first of all you've got a hook second 00:00:33

you're a tyrant and third you're chased 00:00:36

by the dragon of chaos with a clock in 00:00:39

its stomach right the crocodile it's 00:00:42

already got a piece of you well that's 00:00:44

what happens when you get older time has 00:00:46

already got a piece of you and 00:00:48

eventually it's got a taste for you and 00:00:50

eventually it's going to eat you and so 00:00:52

a hook is so traumatized by that that he 00:00:54

can't help but be a tyrant and then 00:00:57

Peter Pan looks out traumatized hook and 00:00:59

says well no I'm not sacrificing my 00:01:02

childhood for that so that's fine except 00:01:04

he ends up king and Lost Boys in 00:01:06

Neverland while Neverland doesn't exist 00:01:09

and who the hell wants to be king of the 00:01:11

Lost Boys and he also sacrifices the 00:01:13

possibility that help a real 00:01:16

relationship with a woman because that's 00:01:17

Wendy right and she's kind of 00:01:18

conservative middle-class London 00:01:20

dwelling girl she wants to grow up and 00:01:23

have kids and have life she accepts her 00:01:26

mortality she accepts her maturity 00:01:27

Peter Pan has to content himself with 00:01:30

Tinkerbell 00:01:33

she doesn't even exist she's like she's 00:01:33

like the fairy of porn she doesn't exist 00:01:37

she's the substitute for the real thing 00:01:41

but the dichotomy that you're talking 00:01:45

about is very tricky because there's a 00:01:47

sacrificial element in maturation right 00:01:49

you have to sacrifice them flora 00:01:52

potentiality of childhood for the 00:01:55

actuality of a frame and the question is 00:01:58

well why would you do that well one 00:02:02

reason is it happens to you whether you 00:02:03

do it or not you can either choose your 00:02:05

damn limitation or you can let it take 00:02:07

you unaware when you're 30 or even worse 00:02:11

than you're 40 and then that is not a 00:02:14

happy day 00:02:17

you see I see people like this and I 00:02:18

think it's more and more common in our 00:02:20

culture because people can put off Matt 00:02:22

Richard II without suffering an 00:02:23

immediate penalty but all that happens 00:02:26

is the penalty accrues and then when it 00:02:28

finally hits it just wants you because 00:02:30

when you're 25 you could be an idiot 00:02:32

it's no problem even when you're out in 00:02:34

a job search it's like well you don't 00:02:37

have any experience and you're kind of 00:02:39

clueless it's yeah yeah you're young you 00:02:40

know it's no problem we can that's what 00:02:42

young people are like but they're full 00:02:43

of potential okay well now you're the 00:02:44

same person at 30 it's like people 00:02:46

aren't so thrilled about you at that 00:02:49

point it's like what the hell have you 00:02:50

been doing for the last ten years well 00:02:52

I'm just as clueless as I was when I was 00:02:54

22 yeah but you're not 22 00:02:56

you're an old infant 00:02:58

right and that's an ugly thing an old 00:03:01

infant so part of the reason you choose 00:03:03

your damn sacrifice because the 00:03:08

sacrifice is inevitable but at least you 00:03:11

get to choose it and then there's 00:03:14

something that's that's even more 00:03:15

complex than that in some sense is that 00:03:16

the problem with being a child is that 00:03:19

all you are is potential and its really 00:03:21

low resolution you could be anything but 00:03:23

you're not anything so then you go and 00:03:26

you do adopt an apprenticeship roughly 00:03:28

speaking and then you become at least 00:03:31

you become something and when you're 00:03:33

something that makes the world open up 00:03:36

to you again you know like if you're a 00:03:37

really good plumber then you end up 00:03:39

being far more than a plumber right you 00:03:42

end up being a good employer you know if 00:03:44

you're a really good plumber well then 00:03:46

you have some employees you run a 00:03:47

business you make you train some other 00:03:48

people you enlarge their lives you're 00:03:51

kind of a pillar of the community you 00:03:53

you have your family 00:03:54

once you pass through that narrow 00:03:56

training period which narrows you and 00:03:59

constricts you and develops you at the 00:04:02

same time then you can come out the 00:04:04

other end with a bunch of new 00:04:05

possibility at HACC and young talked 00:04:06

about that they thought that part of the 00:04:09

proper path of development in the last 00:04:11

half of life was to rediscover the child 00:04:13

that you left behind as you were 00:04:16

apprentices and so then you get to be 00:04:19

something and regain that potential at 00:04:22

the same time very very smart 00:04:24

that's very wise very wise thing to do 00:04:27

sacrifice 00:04:37

you get to pick your damn sacrifice that's all you don't get to not make 00:04:44

your sacrificial whether you want to be 00:04:46

or not that's a good thing to know as 00:04:49

well 00:04:51

you 00:05:13